i don't know how many read my prior post "problems with jw girlfriend and her family", but i feel the need to continue the story as it is very current and is taking quite a toll on both of us.
she and i also work together at a grocery store, so even if she does/did decide to break things off (because of her parents and the religion) we would still see each other (i'll get to this in a minute).
we both know that we still love each other and that we deserve to be together, but can this religion be stronger than true love?????
starcrossedpimp: what a name!
It sounds like you and your gf really do love each other. Can you be the bigger person and let go? It will save you both mountains of problems in the future. She probably wouldn't agree now but someday she will realize it's for the best. Ever try mixing water and oil? That will be what your future with her will be like. Believe it or not ... there is another girl out there more suited to you ... and you deserve to be happy :)
we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.
so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.
and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.
SixofNine: and your point is???
filip is a child who found his way to this adult site ... notice the change in his language since he got here? I wouldn't feel too proud to be a part of that. Quoting scriptures is something you scoff at ... what do you recommend? That he disrespect his parents ... that would be the opposite.
we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.
so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.
and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.
Tammy ... how did any of us survive this long without ' qualified therapists' ?
A little common sense would go a long way ... funny, looking back, how a few bumps along the way make us see how important family is?
Ephesians 6:1,2,3 "Children, be obedient to YOUR parents in union with the Lord, for this is righteous: 2 "Honor your father and your mother, which is the first command with a promise. 3 "That it may go well with you and you may endure a long time on the earth."
Someone could well point out verse four to filip's father, but we are addressing filip here.
DY: You do have a way with words.
we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.
so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.
and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.
Annie ... you see filip as seeing hypocrisy and nonesense ... I see a kid who found an audience on the net that makes him feel good. No rules ... don't obey parents ... life (outside org) is just a bowl of cherries. Life can be a lot tougher if you don't have family. He has that. He isn't too pleased with his family right now ... most teens aren't. Helping a child go against his parents is a terrible thing.
Your slant on the WTS is just that ... another opinion. As long as filip lives at home, his parents deserve respect and, yes, obedience. When he is an adult, then he can decide what path he should take.
If he were catholic, or muslim, I'd give him the same advice.
we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.
so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.
and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.
144001 ... you didn't finish the sentence properly ... you forgot "ON THIS SITE". We all know what he hears in his home. I want him to see it here as well ... to see that not everyone here wants him to rebel. So far, I see he's picked up the lingo here pretty well. The language in his last post speaks volumes as to how he wants to fit in here.
filip: give your father a chance. Someday, when you have children of your own, and they test you to the limit, you may understand ... he's only human.
we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.
so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.
and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.
The plan was ... I would quietly fade away. Just want filip to see another side on this site.
But .. NewLight .. Just have to say ... what on earth are you talking about? (Pauline epistles ?????)
Hopefully your writing will impress your target ... sure isn't me.
we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.
so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.
and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.
FreeWilly .. your assumption is that filip's parents will 'control the information' he is allowed to get. Thus, you assume too much. Simple, really. None of us know what his parents will do ... but as his parents, they have the right to do as they feel best.
we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.
so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.
and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.
OK Tammy .. I see where filip's father yelled at him and said something to the effect .. he could find somewhere else to live. You are right .. no parent should 'lose it' with their child. We are all just people though .. I've said SO many things in the heat of the moment ... and instantly wish I could take them back. Filip's father is just frustrated .. call it abuse if you will. I'm sure the authorities in charge of child abuse would see this as their mildest case.
filip ... if you are still here ... do you really think your parents don't love you and want only what is best for you? Give them the chance ... in time ... when you are an adult, then make adult decisions.
we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.
so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.
and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.
FreeWilly .. you assume too much. INFORMATION CONTROL .. my foot! If anyone here had nothing to fear .. they'd whole heartedly suggest filip deal with this situation with his parents .. not strangers on the net. Are you assuming you know all the facts .. hearing only from a 15 year old child? Something you should think about.
we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.
so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.
and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.
Tammy .. I am not side stepping the issues. Maybe I missed something .. how is filip being abused by his family? I will reread this subject but I don't remember him mentioning abuse.
I agree he should do research ... under his parents supervision!!!!
There are many small ones in my cong. I've yet to see or hear any of them being abused.
If I wanted to, I could say I was abused by my mother too. She tried as hard as she could to keep me from taking the wrong path. She lost her cool a few times and said things she later regreted. Not especially a JW experience exclusively. A loving parent experience though. It is the mandate of a parent to do all they can to protect their child ... let's give filip's parents that chance!
